On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:11:25 -0700, "G" <.@.> wrote:
>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:19:13 -0700, Chaddy2222
>> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>>>> Well yes, but at least if you find a bad HTML site you can turn off
>>>>> styleing and still get to the content that you need!.
>>>>> You can't do that at all with a Flash site.
>>>> If the site is CSS'd yes you can turn off styling. But you're adding
>>>> another technology into the mix. HTML itself is a presentational
>>> Yep, although it was / is not really ment to be used for
>>> presentation. It being HTML in this case. It's just ment to describe
>>> the function of a particular thing, a block of text as a paragraph
>>> as an example. Although at times the technology needs to be used in
>>> a way which some people will not agree with, but in those types of
>>> situations I think the best a designer can do is to provide some
>>> kind of fall-back method so people can still get some value out of
>>> the content.
>> That's good when you want to keep in mind retards, I keep retards in
>> mind on my primary site where I have a plain text fall back version,
>> HOWEVER, for those that aren't retarded, they understand that content
>> and design are VERY much interlinked and dependant on one another.
>> Please try and read this...if you aren't retarded:
>>> Hmmm, that would depend on what you think is "great". Although Flash
>>> is ideal for art type sites and those kind of sites that don't
>>> actually require anyone to gain access to the information (music /
>>> band sites are a bit of an exception to the rule). Due to the fact
>>> that a lot of bands need to use extensive branding (specific fonts
>>> etc that can't be provided *easily* any other way.
>> Even for just a PLAIN TEXT SITE, Flash is VASTLY superior to HTML in a
>> whole variety of ways, from being able to embed fonts, to having
>> proper font anti-aliasing, to having true liquid sized text as opposed
>> to just liquid space stretched text.
>> Again, it's all about the designer, yes in the hands of an AMATEUR it
>> may not be possible to create a site like that and, yes, you amateurs
>> should stick to kiddie, training pants languages like HTML. Simply
>> put, Flash was NOT made for amateur web designers, it's made for
>> PROFESSIONALS and ARTISTS. It's the difference between oil paints and
>> Crayolas. You would NEVER give a three year old a box of oil paints,
>> Crayolas, yes, oil paints...no.
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