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Hey Spacey, Have You Tried This? Onideus Mad Hatter 26-07-2007
 Re: Hey Spacey, Have You Tried This? Neredbojias Reply Send to a Friend   Print
 
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:32:22
GMT Chaddy2222 scribed: 

>> > Hmmm well yes, I could see Hatters point as well. But until Flash
>> > has a way of becomeing more accessible (by users with adaptive
>> > technology)  I probably won't be designing entire websites with it.
>> > In a lot of cases good old HTML with some CSS for styleing works
>> > fine and means you end up with a site with a consistent look and
>> > feel, even if that "look" is not quite the same in all browsing
>> > environments. The thing is though, even if the site does look the
>> > same in all browsers (as in all visual browsers) through the use of
>> > flash, then it still means that it won't work for those of us
>> > useing aural browsers (so some kind of alternative still needs to
>> > be provided. This means that you  then need to update two sites
>> > with the same content, which is why I like the CSS method, as you
>> > can keep all the visual style seprat from the rest of the content
>> > makeing it easier for SE bots and screen readers and visitors to
>> > access the content. This also means that all visual
>> > branding is kept in tact.
>> > --
>> > Regards Chad.http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz
>>
>> Yes, you make many good points.  I think the conclusion is that Flash
>> has to be improved, as does html/css, etc.  -And the browsers.  It's
>> just that sometimes I get a little sick of all the things that
>> _don't_ work under "normal" html auspices.  Yesterday I found a
>> beauty of a bug in Firefox.  Reload a page of thumbs and the first
>> one disappears...  Oh, I'm sure there are conditions.  I think the
>> thumb has to be bigger than a certain size, and perhaps centering
>> plays a part, but it's definitely a bug - for something as simple as
>> that.  (Probably relates to the cache because it only happens
>> online.)  Geesh, will they ever get it right? 
>>
> Hmmm, well images on the web are a tricky thing to get right, did you
> miss setting a hight on one of those images by any chance? Cause that
> is what it sounds like.

No way, Jose.  -Or in this case: Are you mad, Chad?  The heights & widths 
are the same for all images and included via css.  Markup and css validate, 
and there's nothing particularly unusual about the page.  Here's one 
example of the general template:

http://www.neredbojias.com/opa.html

(Damn, reviewing the source, I see there _is_ some superfluous stuff, but 
believe me, those hs's have nothing to do with it.  The basic 8-pic, fixed-
top, cleared-content div layout does it.  My only other example is adult 
material.)

> But as to your question, no I don't think they ever will the web is
> not like paper as they say (I mean it's just impossible to prodict
> anything on the web. Having said that if you write valid code you will
> have a better chance of items working the way you want and I am really
> starting to not be as concerned with IE as a result of this
> (especially as FireFox Opera and all of those type browsers running
> gecho display stuff in a very similar way.
 
My code is valid - even when it's not.  <grin>

Actually, my markup _is_ valid.  I don't believe I have any pages left with 
exceptions.

-- 
Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.


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