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Hey Spacey, Have You Tried This? Onideus Mad Hatter 26-07-2007
 Re: Hey Spacey, Have You Tried This? Onideus Mad Hatter Reply Send to a Friend   Print
On 29 Jul 2007 09:17:10 GMT, Neredbojias <monstersquasher@yahoo.com>

>Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:51:14
>GMT Chaddy2222 scribed: 
>> On Jul 29, 5:02 pm, Neredbojias <monstersquas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 29 Jul 2007
>>> 04:22:06 GMT Onideus Mad Hatter scribed:
>>> > The W3C's doc types are meant more as general guidelines than
>>> > anything, they try to promote good programming practices, but
>>> > really, if you're going to use an HTML based code you need to
>>> > actually check and make sure that each element not only works on
>>> > ALL major browsers but that it also works on ALL major browsers on
>>> > ALL major operating systems...of course, why bother with that
>>> > stupidity when you can simply code your sites in Flash, which takes
>>> > all the guess work out of it.
>>> I actually somewhat agree with your opinion here, but the trouble
>>> with Flash is that it (often) limits the visitor's ability to control
>>> it - much like javascript did in the dog days.  I generally cringe
>>> when I randomly hit a Flash site and am surprised if it happens not
>>> to do anything I don't want it to do.
>> Hmmm well yes, I could see Hatters point as well. But until Flash has
>> a way of becomeing more accessible (by users with adaptive
>> technology)  I probably won't be designing entire websites with it. In
>> a lot of cases good old HTML with some CSS for styleing works fine and
>> means you end up with a site with a consistent look and feel, even if
>> that "look" is not quite the same in all browsing environments.
>> The thing is though, even if the site does look the same in all
>> browsers (as in all visual browsers) through the use of flash, then it
>> still means that it won't work for those of us useing aural browsers
>> (so some kind of alternative still needs to be provided.
>> This means that you  then need to update two sites with the same
>> content, which is why I like the CSS method, as you can keep all the
>> visual style seprat from the rest of the content makeing it easier for
>> SE bots and screen readers and visitors to access the content. This
>> also means that all visual
>> branding is kept in tact.
>> --
>> Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz
>Yes, you make many good points.  I think the conclusion is that Flash has 
>to be improved

Actually it's the DEVELOPERS who need to improve the most, not the
software.  Flash is accessible as the DEVELOPER makes it...sadly most
Flash developers don't have any fuckin cl00 as to what they're even

Also, a lot of times what you call "accessibility" a developer would
call a security hole.  For example the ability to save images in the
site.  It's pretty easy to make custom context menus and setup your
Flash files so that users can save images embedded in the Flash
file...but then a lot of developers don't because they want to protect
their images.


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