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Hey Spacey, Have You Tried This? Onideus Mad Hatter 26-07-2007
 Re: Hey Spacey, Have You Tried This? Neredbojias Reply Send to a Friend   Print
 
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:39:09
GMT Onideus Mad Hatter scribed: 

>>Uh huh, my feelings are very similar to yours.  I do think the
>>situation might have been currently different if html were the crisp,
>>adept, non- buggy interface it's supposed to be, however.  But reality
>>is different, and as I implied before, pagemakers will use whatever
>>best satisfies _their_ needs to create the kind of page they want to
>>communicate with _their_ audience.  It's a bit like the difference
>>between .wma and .mp3 files.  To digital music fans, the former is a
>>joke, -created by MS to control the interests of themselves and their
>>proprietary clients.  Well, I don't care about those interests; I care
>>about my own.  Mp3s are much less invasive or restrictive.  So saying,
>>the main trouble I have with Flash is that it's still proprietary.  If
>>Abode were smart, they'd open-source it.  -Now, before something free
>>[and more "accessible" :)] takes it place. 
> 
> Um...why would you want it open sourced?  If they did that, it would
> instantly plagued with the same problems as HTML...and that'd sure
> suck eight ways to last week.  Beside which, even if the language is
> proprietary that doesn't mean third party development tools can't be
> created.  I don't even use Adobe/Macromedia's Flash builder, I use
> SwishMax, which has a VASTLY superior interface.  Although in a sense
> it *IS* kind of open source, for example in SwishMax there are many
> things coding wise that are different from the way you would code in
> Adobe/Macromedia's Flash builder. The core functions of the language
> can't be changed, but the syntax and code building methodology can
> certainly be made custom as far the precompiled developer front end is
> concerned.

Hmm...  Hmm...  To be honest, I have to think about what you said.  The 
reason I made my statement in the first place was I was considering the 
MS-to-Moz relationship as an analogy.  MS came out with proprietary crap 
like Active-X and .wma which had nothing to do with my best interests, 
only theirs and the entrepreneurs they supply.  Moz came out with 
something that everybody has access to (-meaning the source code and 
development.)  I suppose it's a stretch to generalize that, and open 
source isn't necessarily good in and of itself, however.  I guess I can 
express my feelings best by saying that I hate it when someone puts 
something on _my_ computer which I have no access to and which in the 
long run is inimical to the benefits for which I purchased the computer 
in the first place.  MS wants a "pay-per-view" environment; open-
sorcerers (yuk) want a free, accessible environment.  I can count the 
number of times on one hand that I ever spent money on cable pay-per-view   
and I won't start any similarly repugnant habits in another venue now.  I 
don't mind paying for software initially (-if it works), but ongoing 
costs aggravate the crap outta me.  Btw, these current-day anti-virus 
"subscriptions" are nothing but a big scam, too.

> So in summary, Flash is basically proprietary open source.  It has all
> the advantages of open source development with all the advantages of a
> proprietary system (being universally cross compatible) and none of
> their downsides.

I wouldn't mind trying my hand at making some kind of "Flashish" 
presentation or other.  Do you know of any freeware with the 
capabilities?

-- 
Neredbojias
Half lies are worth twice as much as whole lies.


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